Whomp's Fortress - Revision history

TurkeyCookTime at 20:28, 23 November 2025

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	In the [[Capless/Cannonless Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected.		In the [[Capless/Cannonless Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected.

	In a [[~~Buttonless Challenge\|~~No Buttons Allowed]] challenge, ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' and ''Blast Away the Wall'' can be collected.<ref>No Buttons Allowed: https://youtu.be/hUIYR4PssIY, https://youtu.be/Nlxvh0ldfs8</ref>		In a [[No Buttons Allowed]] challenge, ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' and ''Blast Away the Wall'' can be collected.<ref>No Buttons Allowed: https://youtu.be/hUIYR4PssIY, https://youtu.be/Nlxvh0ldfs8</ref>

	In a [[No Joystick Allowed Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected.<ref>No Joystick Allowed: https://youtu.be/75ihh8bFXPM, https://youtu.be/hD9nuRU1Jfc, https://youtu.be/-jR8AnQaqR0, https://youtu.be/B4IgwsRnNis, https://youtu.be/lcfcf6zDIog, https://youtu.be/ilnQI4AvnvQ, https://youtu.be/6AAbHJ-BrLQ</ref>		In a [[No Joystick Allowed Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected.<ref>No Joystick Allowed: https://youtu.be/75ihh8bFXPM, https://youtu.be/hD9nuRU1Jfc, https://youtu.be/-jR8AnQaqR0, https://youtu.be/B4IgwsRnNis, https://youtu.be/lcfcf6zDIog, https://youtu.be/ilnQI4AvnvQ, https://youtu.be/6AAbHJ-BrLQ</ref>
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	In the [[Pacifist Challenge]], every star except for ''Chip off Whomp's Block'' can be collected in isolation. However, ''To the Top of the Fortress'' can not be collected in a full-game run since it is impossible to select.		In the [[Pacifist Challenge]], every star except for ''Chip off Whomp's Block'' can be collected in isolation. However, ''To the Top of the Fortress'' can not be collected in a full-game run since it is impossible to select.

	In the [[B Button Challenge]], the entire course is possible in 0 B presses.		In the [[B Button Challenge]], the entire course is possible in 0 B presses. On the JP 1.0 version, ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' must be collected with a sideflip from below and ''Blast Away the Wall'' must be collected with a precise ledge grab to avoid opening the cannon.

	In the [[Z Button Challenge]], the entire course is possible in 3 Z presses, all used to ground pound the Whomp King.		In the [[Z Button Challenge]], the entire course is possible in 3 Z presses, all used to ground pound the Whomp King.

Deldee: added speedrun_guide templates

2024-01-03T18:51:56Z

added speedrun_guide templates

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TurkeyCookTime at 15:35, 3 October 2023

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	==Other Challenges==		==Other Challenges==
	In the [[Coinless Challenge~~\|Coinless~~]] ~~and [[CCC Challenge]]s~~, excluding coin missions, all stars can be collected, with ''Blast Away the Wall'' completed less conventionally by using a precise ledge grab in order to avoid the use of cannon.		In the [[Coinless Challenge]], excluding coin missions, all stars can be collected. The same stars can be collected in the [[CCC Challenge]], with ''Blast Away the Wall'' completed less conventionally by using a precise ledge grab in order to avoid the use of cannon.

	In the [[Capless/Cannonless Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected.		In the [[Capless/Cannonless Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected.

TurkeyCookTime at 14:48, 3 October 2023

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	==Other Challenges==		==Other Challenges==
	In the [[CCC Challenge]], excluding coin missions, all stars can be collected, with ''Blast Away the Wall'' completed less conventionally by using a precise ledge grab in order to avoid the use of cannon.		In the [[Coinless Challenge\|Coinless]] and [[CCC Challenge]]s, excluding coin missions, all stars can be collected, with ''Blast Away the Wall'' completed less conventionally by using a precise ledge grab in order to avoid the use of cannon.

	In a [[~~Buttonless~~ Challenge~~\|No Buttons Allowed~~]] ~~challenge~~, ~~''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' and ''Blast Away the Wall''~~ can be collected ~~using only the joystick and the C buttons (to turn the camera)~~.~~<ref>No Buttons Allowed: https://youtu.be/hUIYR4PssIY, https://youtu.be/Nlxvh0ldfs8</ref>~~		In the [[Capless/Cannonless Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected.

	In a [[No ~~Joystick~~ Allowed ~~Challenge~~]], ~~all seven stars~~ can be collected ~~without using the joystick~~.<ref>No ~~Joystick~~ Allowed: https://youtu.be/~~75ihh8bFXPM, https://youtu.be/hD9nuRU1Jfc, https://youtu.be/-jR8AnQaqR0, https://youtu.be/B4IgwsRnNis, https://youtu.be/lcfcf6zDIog, https://youtu.be/ilnQI4AvnvQ~~, https://youtu.be/~~6AAbHJ-BrLQ~~</ref>		In a [[Buttonless Challenge\|No Buttons Allowed]] challenge, ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' and ''Blast Away the Wall'' can be collected.<ref>No Buttons Allowed: https://youtu.be/hUIYR4PssIY, https://youtu.be/Nlxvh0ldfs8</ref>

			In a [[No Joystick Allowed Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected.<ref>No Joystick Allowed: https://youtu.be/75ihh8bFXPM, https://youtu.be/hD9nuRU1Jfc, https://youtu.be/-jR8AnQaqR0, https://youtu.be/B4IgwsRnNis, https://youtu.be/lcfcf6zDIog, https://youtu.be/ilnQI4AvnvQ, https://youtu.be/6AAbHJ-BrLQ</ref>

			In the [[Pacifist Challenge]], every star except for ''Chip off Whomp's Block'' can be collected in isolation. However, ''To the Top of the Fortress'' can not be collected in a full-game run since it is impossible to select.

			In the [[B Button Challenge]], the entire course is possible in 0 B presses.

			In the [[Z Button Challenge]], the entire course is possible in 3 Z presses, all used to ground pound the Whomp King.

			In the [[UBER Challenge]], ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'', ''Fall onto the Caged Island'', and ''Blast Away the Wall'' can be collected in isolation. However, Whomp's Fortress cannot be entered at all in a full-game run because it requires talking to Lakitu.
	==References==		==References==
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TurkeyCookTime at 02:29, 3 October 2023

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	==Other Challenges==		==Other Challenges==
	In a [[CCC Challenge]], excluding coin missions, all stars can be collected, with ''Blast Away the Wall'' completed less conventionally by using a precise ledge grab in order to avoid the use of cannon.		In the [[CCC Challenge]], excluding coin missions, all stars can be collected, with ''Blast Away the Wall'' completed less conventionally by using a precise ledge grab in order to avoid the use of cannon.

	In a [[Buttonless Challenge\|No Buttons Allowed]] challenge, ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' and ''Blast Away the Wall'' can be collected using only the joystick and the C buttons (to turn the camera).<ref>No Buttons Allowed: https://youtu.be/hUIYR4PssIY, https://youtu.be/Nlxvh0ldfs8</ref>		In a [[Buttonless Challenge\|No Buttons Allowed]] challenge, ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' and ''Blast Away the Wall'' can be collected using only the joystick and the C buttons (to turn the camera).<ref>No Buttons Allowed: https://youtu.be/hUIYR4PssIY, https://youtu.be/Nlxvh0ldfs8</ref>

InfoManiac742: /* Original strategy */

2023-01-22T20:14:08Z

Original strategy

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	Upon entering the stage, Mario starts collecting many coins in order to spawn the 100-coin star at the right moment. The Metal Cap is collected twice to activate the hat-in-hand object displacement glitch. Using the glitch, Mario carries the cork box up the mountain (during which he throws the cork box multiple times and catch it while it is falling down from the HOLP to speed up the process). Using clever tricks, he is then able to pick up the cork box during the time he is ascending from the elevator, and he collects all the coins from the floating island. At this point, Mario has 99 coins. The box is then thrown to appear from the HOLP and break next to the tower, exposing the 100th coin at the desired location. Mario collects it, spawning the star next to one of the tower's steps.		Upon entering the stage, Mario starts collecting many coins in order to spawn the 100-coin star at the right moment. The Metal Cap is collected twice to activate the hat-in-hand object displacement glitch. Using the glitch, Mario carries the cork box up the mountain (during which he throws the cork box multiple times and catch it while it is falling down from the HOLP to speed up the process). Using clever tricks, he is then able to pick up the cork box during the time he is ascending from the elevator, and he collects all the coins from the floating island. At this point, Mario has 99 coins. The box is then thrown to appear from the HOLP and break next to the tower, exposing the 100th coin at the desired location. Mario collects it, spawning the star next to one of the tower's steps.

	Mario dives down to the lower part of the course, grabbing the second cork box, and bringing it upwards. At the top floor, ~~With~~ precise movements, Mario remotely throws the cork box, stores 26 vertical speed on the elevator by canceling a dive recover on the steep part of it, allowing the cork box to push him off to reactivate the stored speed, ground pounding to gain height next to a platform of the tower (where the 100-coin star is), and then grabbing on the ledge while collecting the 100-coin star using [[Star Dance Clip]]. After the collecting the star, Mario then climbs up the rest of the tower and collects ''To the Top of the Fortress''.		Mario dives down to the lower part of the course, grabbing the second cork box, and bringing it upwards. At the top floor, with precise movements, Mario remotely throws the cork box, stores 26 vertical speed on the elevator by canceling a dive recover on the steep part of it, allowing the cork box to push him off to reactivate the stored speed, ground pounding to gain height next to a platform of the tower (where the 100-coin star is), and then grabbing on the ledge while collecting the 100-coin star using [[Star Dance Clip]]. After the collecting the star, Mario then climbs up the rest of the tower and collects ''To the Top of the Fortress''.

	For both times going up, Mario has to hold a cork box frame-walking up a slope. With very precise movements, Mario can carry the box and bounce on the ground to reach the, elevator<ref>WF Top of Fortress 0x Faster Strat to Bring Up Box: https://youtu.be/r_AKMelAQBY</ref> instead of having to drop the box at the HOLP and pick it up later on the arrow platform.		For both times going up, Mario has to hold a cork box frame-walking up a slope. With very precise movements, Mario can carry the box and bounce on the ground to reach the elevator<ref>WF Top of Fortress 0x Faster Strat to Bring Up Box: https://youtu.be/r_AKMelAQBY</ref> instead of having to drop the box at the HOLP and pick it up later on the arrow platform.

	===Shoot into the Wild Blue ''(0x)''===		===Shoot into the Wild Blue ''(0x)''===

InfoManiac742: /* Other Challenges */

2023-01-22T20:13:38Z

Other Challenges

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	In a [[CCC Challenge]], excluding coin missions, all stars can be collected, with ''Blast Away the Wall'' completed less conventionally by using a precise ledge grab in order to avoid the use of cannon.		In a [[CCC Challenge]], excluding coin missions, all stars can be collected, with ''Blast Away the Wall'' completed less conventionally by using a precise ledge grab in order to avoid the use of cannon.

	In a [[Buttonless Challenge\|No Buttons Allowed]] challenge, ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' and ''Blast Away the Wall'' can be collected using only the joystick and the C buttons (to turn the camera)<ref>No Buttons Allowed: https://youtu.be/hUIYR4PssIY, https://youtu.be/Nlxvh0ldfs8</ref>.		In a [[Buttonless Challenge\|No Buttons Allowed]] challenge, ''Shoot into the Wild Blue'' and ''Blast Away the Wall'' can be collected using only the joystick and the C buttons (to turn the camera).<ref>No Buttons Allowed: https://youtu.be/hUIYR4PssIY, https://youtu.be/Nlxvh0ldfs8</ref>

	In a [[No Joystick Allowed Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected without using the joystick<ref>No Joystick Allowed: https://youtu.be/75ihh8bFXPM, https://youtu.be/hD9nuRU1Jfc, https://youtu.be/-jR8AnQaqR0, https://youtu.be/B4IgwsRnNis, https://youtu.be/lcfcf6zDIog, https://youtu.be/ilnQI4AvnvQ, https://youtu.be/6AAbHJ-BrLQ</ref>.		In a [[No Joystick Allowed Challenge]], all seven stars can be collected without using the joystick.<ref>No Joystick Allowed: https://youtu.be/75ihh8bFXPM, https://youtu.be/hD9nuRU1Jfc, https://youtu.be/-jR8AnQaqR0, https://youtu.be/B4IgwsRnNis, https://youtu.be/lcfcf6zDIog, https://youtu.be/ilnQI4AvnvQ, https://youtu.be/6AAbHJ-BrLQ</ref>

	==References==		==References==

InfoManiac742: /* Access */

2023-01-22T20:12:54Z

Access

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	==Access==		==Access==
	Whomp's Fortress door typically requires one star to enter, however, using [[LBLJ]] or [[SBLJ]] in the lobby gives access to the level without either the door or the star requirement.<ref>https://youtu.be/kfycfhhkhic?t=27s</ref> Entering this level can also be done without the use of the A button<ref>https://youtu.be/mlHzqJn2SMs?t=33s</ref>, and most likely 2 presses for the [[ABZ Button Challenge\|ABZ]]/[[Buttonless Challenge]]. Entering this level the first time also triggers textboxes, which costs the ABZ/Buttonless Challenge at least 4 presses. (This is yet to be shown on video.)		Whomp's Fortress door typically requires one star to enter, however, using [[LBLJ]] or [[SBLJ]] in the lobby gives access to the level without either the door or the star requirement.<ref>https://youtu.be/kfycfhhkhic?t=27s</ref> Entering this level can also be done without the use of the A button,<ref>https://youtu.be/mlHzqJn2SMs?t=33s</ref> and most likely 2 presses for the [[ABZ Button Challenge\|ABZ]]/[[Buttonless Challenge]]. Entering this level the first time also triggers textboxes, which costs the ABZ/Buttonless Challenge at least 4 presses. (This is yet to be shown on video.)

	==Course Versions==		==Course Versions==

BetaBleeds at 16:48, 2 August 2021

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SuperHamster: /* To the Top of the Fortress (0x) */ Using main template

2021-05-08T07:33:53Z

To the Top of the Fortress (0x): Using main template

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	===To the Top of the Fortress ''(0x)''===		===To the Top of the Fortress ''(0x)''===
	~~:''Main article: [[~~To the Top of the Fortress~~]]''~~		{{main\|To the Top of the Fortress}}

	==== New strategy ====		==== New strategy ====

	:''Video: https://youtu.be/nHx7r6T9ROA''		:''Video: https://youtu.be/nHx7r6T9ROA''

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	==== Original strategy ====		==== Original strategy ====

	:''Video: https://youtu.be/M4M_OyUorRQ ''		:''Video: https://youtu.be/M4M_OyUorRQ ''

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	Mario dives down to the lower part of the course, grabbing the second cork box, and bringing it upwards. At the top floor, With precise movements, Mario remotely throws the cork box, stores 26 vertical speed on the elevator by canceling a dive recover on the steep part of it, allowing the cork box to push him off to reactivate the stored speed, ground pounding to gain height next to a platform of the tower (where the 100-coin star is), and then grabbing on the ledge while collecting the 100-coin star using [[Star Dance Clip]]. After the collecting the star, Mario then climbs up the rest of the tower and collects ''To the Top of the Fortress''.		Mario dives down to the lower part of the course, grabbing the second cork box, and bringing it upwards. At the top floor, With precise movements, Mario remotely throws the cork box, stores 26 vertical speed on the elevator by canceling a dive recover on the steep part of it, allowing the cork box to push him off to reactivate the stored speed, ground pounding to gain height next to a platform of the tower (where the 100-coin star is), and then grabbing on the ledge while collecting the 100-coin star using [[Star Dance Clip]]. After the collecting the star, Mario then climbs up the rest of the tower and collects ''To the Top of the Fortress''.

	For both times going up, Mario has to hold a cork box frame-walking up a slope. With very precise movements, Mario can carry the box and bounce on the ground to reach the elevator<ref>WF Top of Fortress 0x Faster Strat to Bring Up Box: https://youtu.be/r_AKMelAQBY</ref>, instead of having to drop the box at the HOLP and pick it up later on the arrow platform.		For both times going up, Mario has to hold a cork box frame-walking up a slope. With very precise movements, Mario can carry the box and bounce on the ground to reach the, elevator<ref>WF Top of Fortress 0x Faster Strat to Bring Up Box: https://youtu.be/r_AKMelAQBY</ref> instead of having to drop the box at the HOLP and pick it up later on the arrow platform.

	===Shoot into the Wild Blue ''(0x)''===		===Shoot into the Wild Blue ''(0x)''===